Cal/OSHA affects the DRR

[BruceBergman]

The watering up issue hit the CP&LE a couple of years ago. Here is how they dealt with that -
http://www.cplerr.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=606
As far as not being able to use the pits, are they going to shut down every garage and oil change shop that uses pits? Yeah right....

Hush! You'll give them ideas...

That's almost too easy a target - ALL the "Jiffy Lube" spin-offs (and all the major oil brands have them) use lube pits, many of them a full basement under the store with three or four "slots" where the cars drive over, and the rest of the space filled with shelves full of oil and air filters.

If you shut their pits, they are out of business - they have no easy way to retrofit the stores to lifts. And lifts take longer - but that's only a factor when you have a line out the door, and these stores often have their employees out twirling a sign at traffic going "Special Deal! $5 OFF NO WAITING" trying to drum up business. Any business.

With money tight, those who can change their own, do.

And on heavy equipment like trains, trucks, and the Parking Lot Trams, there's simply no substitute for a Lube Pit for maintenance and repairs - putting them on a lift means unhitching and re-hitching, and with trailers you need a shop tractor or forklift to get them to and from the lift by themselves...

You need to do the daily inspection underneath a seven-string tram train, not having a lube pit just turned a 30-minute job for two people (a Driver to pull it forward two cars on command from the Mechanic below) into an all-day hassle.

And service lifts that can pick up a Locomotive are few and far between. I'd have serious reservations about using complex lifting gear for trivial stuff - KISS.

Never Taunt Murphy, because you squish easily.

This has GOT to be a Fines and Fees money-grab by the various states. Problem is, they haven't hit a company hard yet that has both deep enough pockets to fund a knock-down legal battle and the will to sue and fight the unworkable regulations all the way to the Supremes if needed.

[IDMT129]

The whole reason OSHA is around is to limit the states workers comp liability. A train pit has nothing to do with false claims filed by the millions of people milking the government system. LAWMAKERS made the social econmoic quagmire we are in. Free handouts and a self serving government which is mad it does not have more money to steal from the American public to dole out this administations brand of socialism. They don't give one rat's fat cheese stealing iota about a fireman standing on a tender to water the tender. This is about the government flexing it's muscle at a theme park simply to buff their coffers because they can't manage their money. They stole $15 MILLION cash from the court I work at to fund their programs. Lawmakers treating the 3rd form of government as a public agency and stripping all the funding from the courts who actually serve the people unlike the Congress.

This is not about trains, workers slipping on space mountain, or any other real safety issues. I am appauled. And enough said. VOTE!

[Dave Van]

This is not about trains, workers slipping on space mountain, or any other real safety issues. I am appauled. And enough said. VOTE!

AGREED......Before escaping a certain big southern city......Police were busy in our neighborhood handing out tickets if you had so much as PART of a tire touching your yard/grass. (there was a no lawn parking law) They would patrol often only handing out these tickets.

When I called our precinct captain about a guy near me that got a lot of after hours visitors, had 3 expensive cars in a lower middle class area, was home 7/24, got deliveries from a NYC fish wholesaler every tue around midnight (drugs??) He told me the guy wasn't breaking any laws so they couldn't look into it. Guess the 80 year old next door was easier to 'take down' with multiple fines than a guy that might be well armed.....and the old lady generated at lot more cash for the dept.....the guy was going to be a lot of work, cost and danger.

SOP every where......

[IDMT129]

In case there is any doubt as to rides really closing because of OSHA...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/04/1 ... 93295.html

http://www.swrnn.com/2013/04/16/disneyl ... in-mishap/

So something that happened externally, closes indefinately, the ride inside. Love the logic.

[lillybellefan2-6-0]

If I remember correctly the WDWRR had this same issue a few years back. There solution to the problem was to have the fireman stand on the rear of the tender instead of on top of it.

[TFN5459]

If I remember correctly the WDWRR had this same issue a few years back. There solution to the problem was to have the fireman stand on the rear of the tender instead of on top of it.

That might work except that the back of the Disneyland tenders are a lot smaller with less standing room and also the high tanks on the Gurley and Kimball would make it hard to reach over.

[Brian]

Cal OSHA is ran by a bunch of fools. I worked at a hardware store in my early twenties loading customers cars and driving a forklift in a warehouse. The warehouse had a second story with a handrail around it for safety. The handrail had a gate built in it to allowing the fork lift to move items from the first floor to the second floor. Every few months CALOSHA would visit and we would have to paint the gate a new bright color to show it was there and not to lean on it. One inspector one month said it had to be yellow, a few months later another inspector said red, and another month later a inspector said green. I really don't think CALOSHA has a book with all the rules they just make it up as they go, so they can fine people and collect money.

[Steve DeGaetano]

Over on Laughing Place, it's been reported that tender rides have been suspended, and the Gurley and Kimball are out of commission.

[IDMT129]

More posted on the Disney Blog.

http://thedisneyblog.com/2013/04/13/dis ... s-by-osha/

[IDMT129]

Someone on another site asked a very good question. "Is Cal OSHA doing this to Knott's?". If they are just targeting Dismeyland RR they may have a business discrimination lawsuit.